As one of the skeptic Moms on the podcast with LEL, one thing that I hope will come out from that interview is she states plainly that “there is no evidence that there is a risk of suicide if you don’t affirm”- this is the entire reason so many people believe this care is vital!!! Thank you for such a comprehensive outline of the cruelty and butchery these ideologues are performing on children and vulnerable adults of all ages!
It is very frustrating that more conversations are not had about this. Thea people believe the true transsexual is a homosexual. It’s very plain to see.
One time at a conference, LEL was asked if she uses a patient’s preferred name and pronouns during the assessment process, considering that doing so is in and of itself a powerful psychological intervention. Her response was that if she didn’t use the preferred name and pronouns she wouldn’t have any clients. That pretty much tells you all you need to know about any “gender specialist”.
I well remember the Singal article when it came out--I thought at the time (and I suspect he now thinks too) that he was too flattering in his portrayal of Laura Edwards-Leeper and her air of calm & reasonable "expertise." I also remember listening to that two-part interview with Meghan Daum. I'm so glad she had on parents who knew more than she does about where this is all headed! Her aim seems to be sorting out the children into the correct boxes of trans (& which kind) and not-trans, not in protecting the health and future sexual and emotional possibilities for these kids. This seems key to understanding her (UB's words): "a structured 'process' [for sorting out the trans vs. non-trans kids] can create the illusion of that." That's all it is--an illusion, a high-stakes game of sorting and matching. It almost makes me wonder if some of these so-called "gender docs/clinicians" aren't mostly autistic too, in their shallowness of reasoning and theory of mind, and their inability to grasp the real-world consequences for their decisions.
Any adult of any sexual orientation who's ever had a few orgasms with a sex partner knows full well the vital importance of healthy, uncompromised genitals to the formation of loving, intimate relationships, as well as their importance to fertility. This is the weird little secret of "gender medicine"--it's all about the cosmetics and passing, not about the actual function and feeling of genitalia. I only wished they were MORE "obsessed with other people's genitals," as the nasty TRA slogan goes. If they were, they might respect them and encourage people to address their mental health issues with mental health treatments, not hormones and surgeries.
If and when the reckoning comes, I'm going to sort Edwards-Leeper in with all the other freaks and kooks who pushed medical experimentation on children. They can all go straight to hell.
My husband and I were confident that the therapist would immediately notice what we did: That our socially awkward autistic son suffering from extreme anxiety is traumatized and confused by encounters with online pedophiles. But she completely dismissed any influence that autism might have had and told our son that he was attracted to the pedophiles because of repressed trans desires. This is the opposite of therapy. We were gobsmacked. Your article explains that this is not just one bad therapist but thinking integral to the whole ideology. Even more infuriating is that this "therapy" is the only kind legally allowed where we live.
The authors impose these therapy requirements and wait until “typically around age 16” for cross-sex hormones “to ensure that an adolescent is not ambivalent, and that these interventions are well thought through and understood without coercion from others, and with full consent.”
"Without coercion from others?" The entire paper is about telling psychologists how to coerce gay and autistic teens into believing they're actually trans even if they've never considered it!
16 year olds are mature enough to make lifelong decisions about their future reproductive wishes and sexual relationships and know how they will view themselves for the rest of their lives. and we all know that 16 year olds don't respond to influences from others such as their peers in real life or online. and they surely don't think that just because there is a process, that they are getting actual medical care (reading tea leaves has a process, too, after all). /s
Thank you so much for this excellent piece. I had (clearly, mistakenly) held this woman in high regard until today. I’m now left wondering what she is “up to” these days, since 2021, that is. Anyone who believes there is such a thing as “true trans” is problematic.
What is LEL up to? She and Dr Erica Anderson submitted an amicus brief to SCOTUS opposing the TN ban on GAC for minors. You know, she has to protect the “real” trans kids from not having access to PBs and hormones.
PBS's fine dramatization of "The War Widow," certainly "sapphic" if not a long-running soap opera, preceded 2004 by several decades. It debuted in the mid 1970s I think and had a few repeats in the year or two after.
To whom you are attracted sexually is purely subjective and therefore cannot reasonably be contested by an outside observer.
Where you decide to live your life on a spectrum of superficial, stereotypical male to female attributes (and we all do) is also purely subjective and similarly cannot be questioned.
However, your biological sex reflects an objective reality which cannot be changed by your subjective personal view and futile attempts to do so can result in serious health impacts to you as well as harms to members of the sex you are impersonating (primarily women).
Others who are grounded in objective reality should never be forced to accept your subjective version of your actual biological sex.
Finally, it's past time for the LGB community to separate themselves from the trans activists who are trying to take away the rights of women to fairness in sports and to privacy and safety in their restrooms, locker rooms and prisons. They also advocate for the chemical and surgical mutilation of children many of whom would grow up gay.
Their actions are evil and the
understandable negative reaction to the harm they are causing is spilling over to innocent people who are just going about their business, marrying and leading their lives.
As one of the skeptic Moms on the podcast with LEL, one thing that I hope will come out from that interview is she states plainly that “there is no evidence that there is a risk of suicide if you don’t affirm”- this is the entire reason so many people believe this care is vital!!! Thank you for such a comprehensive outline of the cruelty and butchery these ideologues are performing on children and vulnerable adults of all ages!
Thank you for commenting and for your work in that interview!
It is very frustrating that more conversations are not had about this. Thea people believe the true transsexual is a homosexual. It’s very plain to see.
And on the rare occasions that they're challenged about this, they point to an AGP as proof it's more complicated!
lol! They do don’t they!
One time at a conference, LEL was asked if she uses a patient’s preferred name and pronouns during the assessment process, considering that doing so is in and of itself a powerful psychological intervention. Her response was that if she didn’t use the preferred name and pronouns she wouldn’t have any clients. That pretty much tells you all you need to know about any “gender specialist”.
I well remember the Singal article when it came out--I thought at the time (and I suspect he now thinks too) that he was too flattering in his portrayal of Laura Edwards-Leeper and her air of calm & reasonable "expertise." I also remember listening to that two-part interview with Meghan Daum. I'm so glad she had on parents who knew more than she does about where this is all headed! Her aim seems to be sorting out the children into the correct boxes of trans (& which kind) and not-trans, not in protecting the health and future sexual and emotional possibilities for these kids. This seems key to understanding her (UB's words): "a structured 'process' [for sorting out the trans vs. non-trans kids] can create the illusion of that." That's all it is--an illusion, a high-stakes game of sorting and matching. It almost makes me wonder if some of these so-called "gender docs/clinicians" aren't mostly autistic too, in their shallowness of reasoning and theory of mind, and their inability to grasp the real-world consequences for their decisions.
Any adult of any sexual orientation who's ever had a few orgasms with a sex partner knows full well the vital importance of healthy, uncompromised genitals to the formation of loving, intimate relationships, as well as their importance to fertility. This is the weird little secret of "gender medicine"--it's all about the cosmetics and passing, not about the actual function and feeling of genitalia. I only wished they were MORE "obsessed with other people's genitals," as the nasty TRA slogan goes. If they were, they might respect them and encourage people to address their mental health issues with mental health treatments, not hormones and surgeries.
If and when the reckoning comes, I'm going to sort Edwards-Leeper in with all the other freaks and kooks who pushed medical experimentation on children. They can all go straight to hell.
Meant to add: does Laura Edwards-Leeper have kids? Would she submit them to this kind of unevidenced voodoo barbarism? I would like to know.
100% agree! It is truly about the perception and not the function.
My husband and I were confident that the therapist would immediately notice what we did: That our socially awkward autistic son suffering from extreme anxiety is traumatized and confused by encounters with online pedophiles. But she completely dismissed any influence that autism might have had and told our son that he was attracted to the pedophiles because of repressed trans desires. This is the opposite of therapy. We were gobsmacked. Your article explains that this is not just one bad therapist but thinking integral to the whole ideology. Even more infuriating is that this "therapy" is the only kind legally allowed where we live.
The authors impose these therapy requirements and wait until “typically around age 16” for cross-sex hormones “to ensure that an adolescent is not ambivalent, and that these interventions are well thought through and understood without coercion from others, and with full consent.”
"Without coercion from others?" The entire paper is about telling psychologists how to coerce gay and autistic teens into believing they're actually trans even if they've never considered it!
16 year olds are mature enough to make lifelong decisions about their future reproductive wishes and sexual relationships and know how they will view themselves for the rest of their lives. and we all know that 16 year olds don't respond to influences from others such as their peers in real life or online. and they surely don't think that just because there is a process, that they are getting actual medical care (reading tea leaves has a process, too, after all). /s
Fantastic review. Thank you!
Sinister stuff.
Thank you so much for this excellent piece. I had (clearly, mistakenly) held this woman in high regard until today. I’m now left wondering what she is “up to” these days, since 2021, that is. Anyone who believes there is such a thing as “true trans” is problematic.
What is LEL up to? She and Dr Erica Anderson submitted an amicus brief to SCOTUS opposing the TN ban on GAC for minors. You know, she has to protect the “real” trans kids from not having access to PBs and hormones.
"TV’s first sapphic soap opera debuted in 2004."
PBS's fine dramatization of "The War Widow," certainly "sapphic" if not a long-running soap opera, preceded 2004 by several decades. It debuted in the mid 1970s I think and had a few repeats in the year or two after.
To whom you are attracted sexually is purely subjective and therefore cannot reasonably be contested by an outside observer.
Where you decide to live your life on a spectrum of superficial, stereotypical male to female attributes (and we all do) is also purely subjective and similarly cannot be questioned.
However, your biological sex reflects an objective reality which cannot be changed by your subjective personal view and futile attempts to do so can result in serious health impacts to you as well as harms to members of the sex you are impersonating (primarily women).
Others who are grounded in objective reality should never be forced to accept your subjective version of your actual biological sex.
Finally, it's past time for the LGB community to separate themselves from the trans activists who are trying to take away the rights of women to fairness in sports and to privacy and safety in their restrooms, locker rooms and prisons. They also advocate for the chemical and surgical mutilation of children many of whom would grow up gay.
Their actions are evil and the
understandable negative reaction to the harm they are causing is spilling over to innocent people who are just going about their business, marrying and leading their lives.
Classic case of "I have no medical training, but I am authorised to refer patients for medical treatments."